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13 December 2007 @ 03:30 pm
Never Meant Nevermore  
Title: Never Meant Nevermore
Rating: Older teen
Warnings: Mentions of the death, but nothing graphic on-screen.
Genre: Romance/Angst
Fandom: Genbu Kaiden
Pairing: Takiko/Rimudo (Uruki), Takiko/Tomite
Disclaimer: I do not own GK or any of its characters. That honour goes to Yuu Watase-san.

Never Meant Nevermore

What would happen if after volume 4, Takiko wasn't able to return to Hokkan? How would her life have gone on without her duty as the Genbu no Miko? Slight AU.

This is un-betaed work that I would like to get some feedback before I actually post it to FFN and other sites. Thank you in advance!

X-posted at genbukaiden
Hannahomnibussle on December 31st, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
Wow..Pretty, but sad, too! I definitely think you should post it on FFN, cuz it's really good. ^^
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 1st, 2008 05:28 am (UTC)
Thank you!

I wasn't sure if it held the right "tone" for GK and I kept wondering about what would happen if she couldn't come back. With the recent chapters, I wondered how someone as strong as Takiko could give up just like that. I knew in other lore, wishes and magic can't be worked against a person's will unless they agreed to it, so I wanted to play off a situation where she would have implied permission without knowing it.
ex_beppin14279 on January 1st, 2008 05:07 pm (UTC)
I really do like it! It's the first story like this I've read in Genbu Kaiden (maybe that's just me, though.), so I love it's originality. Also, I think the tone fits perfectly. And I liked how you managed to fit Suzuno in there too! It's like you tied everything together, even though it's not exactly a happy ending (but, hey, GK doesn't exactly have a happy ending anyway... >_<").

Definitely, well done!

(this is beppin14, btw. I'm on my other account. XD)
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 2nd, 2008 02:58 am (UTC)
Exactly, since we already knew what was going to happen in the future for both our world and that world. I figured even if Takiko came back, she wasn't coming back to a happier world what with WWII at the door and what Japan has gone through in the last century (the two largest earthquakes of their recorded history). I also figured that Takiko was still alive in our world, Takao would have double the reason to hide the book well from both his daughter and Takiko.

Most of my fanfics with Takiko don't end happy. I'm still trying to find a loophole through her having a happy ending.

(beppin14? You're the one who writes the shigi/hien fics right?)
はんなbeppin14 on January 2nd, 2008 03:24 am (UTC)
It'd be really great to read a realistic (-ish) fic where Takiko's life ends happily, so please do let me know if you find that loop-hole!!
And yeah, I can see why he'd want to hide it; though he obviously didn't do it very well.. XD
I would have hated to live at the time where Takiko did. WW2 SUCKED for Japan; though it sucked more the Jews and the Chinese, I guess. Also, I've been to the museums for those earthquakes. Pretty scary!! O.O So yeah, her life was awful before the Shi jin ten chi sho, while she was in the shi jin ten chi sho (Weeelll....Kinda. XD), and AFTER as well! Ugh, poor girl. >_<"

Oh, and yes! I'm obsessed with Shigi and Hien. XD I stopped posting to genbukaiden, though, because not that many people were reading it. Actually, not that many people read them now, either. T~T Oh well, life goes on. XD
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 2nd, 2008 04:20 am (UTC)
I still have to go through the original FY to see what the exact wording of Tai Yi-Jun. Because in translation from Japanese to English, it leaves things open to interpretation. Then there's the exact wording of Suzuno's wish because maybe she didn't use the right words and that's why the wish couldn't be granted.

I think after Takiko died, Takao might have had a really hard time believing the words of Einosuke, thinking he caught something. However, with Takiko there, and probably witnessing Takiko demanding for the book, he begins to believe.

Don't worry, as I've noticed in the GK fandom, not many people are interested in creating fanfics anymore than reading them so oh well ^-^ We don't even have crack pairings that make us wonder. Every other fandom I've been in usually throws me a curve ball by now in a pairing.
はんなbeppin14 on January 2nd, 2008 01:17 pm (UTC)
Oh, do you speak Japanese too?
And yeah, I guess I can see that how the wish could be phrased would have an effect on it being granted. Interesting, though, I hadn't even thought of that. I don't know if I've read that bit in the original; I have most of the books, but I skipped a few right in the middle cuz I couldn't find them. >_<"
I do like the mange better than the anime, it's much more believable; and funny, too!

And the thing with Takao makes sense. He probably would've thought his teacher went crazy or something, though he did hide the book. I really can't wait for a Byakko story! I'm lusting after that new Perfect World because of the calander you get in it with Tatara, Suzuno, Tokaki & Subaru. Problem is, I can't find anywhere that would ship to the UK! TT~TT

It's sad how not that many people want to read fanfics here. You're right, most other fandoms are FILLED with them, and they have all the cool cracks too. I'm thinking of writing a few with crack pairings. It'd be funny to see how the community reacts when they see a Takiko x Hien one. XD Or Shigi x Hatsui. The list is endless.... XDDD
はんなbeppin14 on January 2nd, 2008 01:36 pm (UTC)
PS. Sorry about replying on all these different accounts! I'm purging beppin14, and omnibussle and beppin14 are my writing/normal accounts. Sorry if I'm confusing you!! >_<"
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 2nd, 2008 10:09 pm (UTC)
Don't worry about it ^_^, I kind of figured it out.

No I don't speak Japanese (not even fan Japanese ^-^) but I do like languages so part of my reasoning for buying the Perfect World volumes is so I can practise on my own. I figured if I had to look up the same word three thousand times that I would eventually learn it. So between a Japanese phrasebook and possibly a dictionary, I would be able to figure which character means what. I also have FY and GK in their English counterparts so I can compare scenes and figure out in a process of elimination what each character means.

As for translating, I know a number of people who can read Japanese just fine so I asked each of them to give me a translation, well different people, slightly different translations because of opinions. That saves me a bit of leg work and I'll be able to see the loophole. The best way I can describe this, and hopefully without offending anyone, is the Bible. You know that line "Suffer not a witch to live"? Witch isn't exactly the direct translation, especially if you took into other cultures when you translate. In the Old Testament in the original Hebrew that line referred to someone who would use spells and magic to harm, which depends on your view and what your culture's view of a witch is. Anyway, this is why I wanted to go to the original Japanese, since Viz might have taken in something culturally in translation (like they tend to do) that we would relate to but not what the original Japanese refers to.

Yep the wish could have been phrased differently. It's been years since I've read FY but I think the original wording of either Suzaku or Byakko was that they couldn't live together in this world or ours. Well, taking from a His Dark Materials point of view :3 that leaves at least a thousand other universes and worlds to put Takiko and Rimudo in but I need to double check. If it refers to them being unable to be together in this life, well, wish to be reborn in another world and life.

I've actually never seen the anime ^_^; One of my friends has it but I agree, I like reading manga a bit better. There's just some things lost between the manga and anime transition.

Two places I'm watching for Perfect World volume 12 is eBay (where I get the old issues as well since I didn't decide to get the volumes till much later) and Akadot Retail (both ship to the UK or you can ask the seller), of which sadly nothing is listed yet but I blame it on the holidays. Listings will probably be up before volume 13 is on our radar.

Yep, I was thinking of writing a few crack pairings too! To be more specific, I was thinking of monthly challenges to this com where every month we pick an abnormal pairing out of the bag, metaphorically speaking, and everyone tries their hand at that pairing. Just for the heck of it and as practise for characterization. I definitely know there's one Haagasu/Takiko on my hard drive somewhere ^_^
Hannahomnibussle on January 2nd, 2008 10:45 pm (UTC)
Wow... *o*
You sure know a lot about it. I had no idea about the bible/witch thing, though it's actually kind of comforting. Mis-translation is always a b*tch.

And I actually watched the anime before the manga! I liked it, but when I went and bought the manga I realised that it was funnier and more mature. The anime did get a little annoying after a while... >_<"

And good luck with the translation! If you don't have enough people, I'd be happy to help you! ^,^

I've been checking adakot and ebay too, but there's nothing. Arrgh!! I really want that calander! Actually, I was really relieved that Shigi and Hien managed to make it through this volume. I was so sure they were going to be killed. T~T

I think a crack challenge would be great!! I know I'D do it!! XD But maybe not to the gk community.. It'd spam the place (assuming that people would actually do it, of course) so I think they'd chuck me out. XD I think the best way to do it would be to make a new community, then advertise the challenge monthly on the main community. But whatever. XD I'm awful with this sort of stuff.

Ooh, do you mean you have a Haagas/Takiko fic? *pant pant pant* If you find it, could you maybe direct a link of it to me? Please? It sounds great already! XD
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 2nd, 2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
I'm a geek with a lot of time on her hands ^-^

I think it was a little over a year ago that I actually stopped watching anime religiously. Overdose if you will and I guess I was ready for a break. I think the only ones that I am watching would be Saiunkoku Monogatari, Death Note, and Gundam Seed Destiny, in order of how often, but I'm only really obsessed with Saiunkoku out of these.

Well gkfic does actually encourage us to post challenges and considering this community receives little activity, it would be a way to keep it going.

Yep, I most definitely have a Haagasu/Takiko and I am planning of posting it this year. That's my secret ship. ^_^ I love Takiko/Rimudo to bits and my OT3 would definitely be Takiko/Rimudo/Tomite, but this ship bit me without me expecting it and then those chapters came in and I was like "this is a sign!"
Hannahomnibussle on January 2nd, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC)
Same here, I've gone totally off anime because I really was obsessed with it! >_<" Then it was manga, then it was jdramas, then it was kdramas, and now it's...writing. XD Call me obsessive, in general.

gkfic would be a good idea, actually! I've noticed that not many people post to it, which is sad. I did a few times, but I got kinda annoyed because no one commented on my work. Oh well, it would stil be a great idea, and if you want to do it... *shiny eyes* XD

Grr, please tell me when you post that fic! I'll drool my way over. XD

Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 2nd, 2008 11:30 pm (UTC)
Obsessive is just another way of saying fan. Some are better at hiding it than others ^-^

As for gkfic, we could start this month, not to mention it's the beginning of a new year. I was thinking of posting the challenges either on the first Friday or Saturday of each month based on an observation of one my friends that there's always more fanfiction on Monday's because people spent the weekend writing. The question is which couple to start with?

Please don't get your hopes up for my Haagasu/Takiko. >< It took me over a year just to get Nevermore right and in the end it was, "damnit, I'll just write it regardless of how horrible it's going to sound." Mind you, I find writing Haagasu easier than it was to write Hikitsu.
はんなbeppin14 on January 2nd, 2008 11:53 pm (UTC)
Hmm...That sounds good. Friday would be great. Or Saturday. >_<" And sure, this month would be fine! ^^

And hey, don't worry. Your writing is definitely of better quality than mine.

I would have no idea what to do for Haagas. I have this in-built grudge against him because he's always mean to Shigi and Hien. Fan? No - Obsessive! XDD

I think...Well. I'll try and think of a fair way for us to make up the pairing. >_<" Although it will probably suck. Never mind... XDD
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)
Well, the silly idea I had was to roll a pair of online dice (I know there are a couple sites like that) and we just assign each character a number and see what comes up. Either that or make a random generator, in which we do the same thing. If both end up the same, such as Takiko/Takiko are the results, then it would be a free for all of who we want to pair her up with. And maybe every season or half a year we could have one threesome challenge but with an actual pairing if people just want the monthly dose. Not sure how this will work out...

Shigi and Hien were pretty mean to Haagasu last chapter but I was too distracted by his pretty hair. Damn I want his hair. ^0^
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 01:02 am (UTC)
No, that idea sounds good! It sounds...plausible. XD
Mine was REALLY stupid: we each think of a random character and viola! XD

Anyway. Shall we do it? I'd appreciate if you could set up the dice/thing side of it, because I have no idea what to do! But I will do anything else you want me to. XD I definitely think it will work! And if it doesn't...Meh, we'll try again. XD

Haagas deserved it, he was lying to them! And Shigi's hair is cooler!! *pout* XPPP
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 01:11 am (UTC)
I need to find that site again but sure!

Yes but Haagasu's hair is so long and silky and makes me want it draped over me....I will stop my fantasies now. Besides, he's not built as waif-like as I've found some anime guys to be. I definitely like muscle on my men :3
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 01:37 am (UTC)
Ooh, is that a dig at Shigi???? XDDDDD
Nah...I don't mind them. Saying that, I probably wouldn't date Shigi, myself... XD

And thanks! Let me know if there's anything I can do!! ^o^

Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 01:47 am (UTC)
Me neither but for a variety of reasons. I fear he's more psychotic than I'm willing to handle. The other reason is his castration. Judging by how he looks, I'm guessing that happened before he reached puberty, meaning he would still sound like a young boy...>-< That's just...wrong. I so draw the line there. I don't mind large age differences between my couples, but I'd prefer both to be over puberty first.
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 02:01 am (UTC)

I agree, I definitely wouldn't be able to date him. (It happened when he was 12! DX) It would be kinda... Ew. >_<"
I wonder about Hien? He's completely mad, but still pretty good looking.. He seems to have grown younger, though. I swear he looked more manly at the beginning of the series. >_<"

I used to love Hikitsu! He's a nice option...*drools*
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 02:03 am (UTC)
Hikitsu too has very pretty hair but not as long as Haagasu's hair. I've been going over darker-haired guys lately but a few years ago, it would have been Hikitsu.

By the way, I was just looking on eBay, there's a volume 12 on sale now there, just to let you know!
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 02:08 am (UTC)

Thank you! Is that ebay.com or ebay.co.uk?


I like darker-haired guys in real life, but in manga...Pfft. I don't care. XD
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 02:16 am (UTC)
I'll make it even easier, here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360010647188&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=023 and they ship worldwide too.

In manga, it really depends on the guy. I think it's because right now Hikitsu doesn't "click" for me, you know?
Hannahomnibussle on January 3rd, 2008 02:22 am (UTC)
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Yeah, I guess. He doesn't click for me, now, either. >_<"

So it's just Haagas? I know a lot of people like Uruki, but... *shudders* XD
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 02:39 am (UTC)
Oh I love Uruki too but he doesn't have that "dark" undertone I'm attracted to. He did in the beginning but it fizzled out. Frankly I'll take Uruki/Rimudo either way, but I believe my favourite character is Takiko because she's an outsider who knows she can do better. Actually there are the odd beginnings of an Uruki/Takiko fic on my drive as opposed to a Rimudo/Takiko fic, based on the idea of Chiriko. When his character appears, he's this brainy mature kid but without it, he's this crybaby. I wondered if the same thing applied to Uruki versus Rimudo. I'll take any pairing any way. Besides, good news about a guy who can turn into a girl, you can drag them into any store and they can't say anything about their dignity. With a guy, I can understand not wanting to be caught in a boutique but if you can turn into a girl...shopping partner ^-^
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 03:02 am (UTC)

Strangely enough, None of my boyfriends have had a problem with shopping. I think I'm dating the wrong type of guys... (or not, apparently.) XD

And I don't know about the Uruki/Rimudo thing. I can't stand him/her either way!! I think I'm just about the only one in the entire fandom as well. 0,0

I always wondered if Takiko was bisexual, actually... Seeing as she likes Uruki. It's interesting. XD
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 03:12 am (UTC)
Nope, you're probably dating the guys who are comfortable and thus know that going into a boutique is not going to make their man-parts shrink ^-^

I've actually wondered and am now of the conclusion (in my mind anyway) that Takiko is definitely bisexual. Frankly Uruki/Takiko is my other crack pairing. Mainly because from what I could tell during the first few volumes "Uruki" cared more for Takiko than "Rimudo."
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 03:18 am (UTC)

Are there many Uruki x Takiko fics? Uruki in woman form, I mean. I think Takiko's subconsciously bisexual. She's probably have a fit if it got pointed out to her, though. XD
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 03:27 am (UTC)
^-^ Nope, I have yet to see one on here or on FFN, which is probably why I started writing one. I couldn't help but also wonder, since we don't see everything in her mind, if she would already know...and maybe that's where she turned to after Takao. I mean, think about Uruki was the person she met. Then she met Rimudo...
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 04:09 am (UTC)
My mind's boggling with all these theories now! You seriousy need to write more fics!!!!
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 04:17 am (UTC)
I so would but this isn't my only fandom >_< I have Teen Titans, Avatar, and Transformers.
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 04:21 am (UTC)

Whoa! You would be...very busy. >_<"

I guess I'm lucky, because I only ever write with only one pairing from one fandom.

Where do you post your other stuff? Just on your journal, or on FFN?
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 04:31 am (UTC)
I would be very busy, if I actually was writing most of the time. Most of my fics are inside my mind and have yet to have a physical form, but I get inspired easily and then it's like whoa.

I usually post my stories to my LJ first and after (hopefully) finding someone to beta for me, I'll post it to FFN. Speaking of which, I posted Nevermore to FFN already since I tried my own hand at editing and didn't see anything wrong.

I knew a couple of your fics sounded familiar!
はんなbeppin14 on January 3rd, 2008 04:38 am (UTC)
Why do you need a beta? I don't see anything wrong with it! >_<"

Oooh, I shall check your fic out tomorrow. I really need to sleep now!! #_#

And I'm the same! Most of my fics are daydreams that I decide to write about. XDD
Ebontien: Sky Folktalethefireisblack on January 3rd, 2008 04:50 am (UTC)
I wanted to improve in my writing and I noticed with having a good beta reader, I'll learn from my mistakes and move on from them.

I really need to sleep too. These winter holidays really spoil me in my sleeping habits ><;